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Ep. 022 - Le coup de poker de David

Brian Haugen Season 2 Episode 7

Dans une conversation riche et sans filtres, David raconte son parcours personnel : un départ courageux pour l’Angleterre à 17 ans, ses années dans le poker et ce que ce jeu révèle de nous, les attitudes, les egos, les petites humiliations et les grandes leçons. Il évoque enfin sa transformation physique après une opération bariatrique, la reconstruction, la psychologie, la paternité, les difficultés, et ce moment fondateur où son fils naît en pleine pandémie. Un épisode vrai, profond, et lumineux où l’on comprend que, finalement, on ne marche jamais tout à fait seul.

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SPEAKER_01:

Bonjour David. Salut Brian. It's very plaisir to my pet studio. Merci à toi de m'avoir invité. Surtout que tu as eu des petites galères en venant depuis Gland.

SPEAKER_02:

Ouais, petite galère, two, three accidents, autant sur le côté Lausanne que Genève, qui have bouchonne pas mal. Super.

SPEAKER_00:

Down all the senses. In all directions.

SPEAKER_01:

Why is we appeal the habitat of Gland? The Glandois.

SPEAKER_02:

I was here at Genève and I'm at Gland during a 40 years, but I was like an terror vaudoise. I'm not really Geneva than you, but you're a pure voice? No. In fact, I am origin of Fribourgeois of my family, Tessino of my mother, and I was at Geneva. And if we went a bit low, my grandparents and Spanish in Dallus. And the way of my grandmother, he has two or three origins also Italian. And if you want more, you can stay in the Italy, but it's already low. It's a very simple, but it's really very long with another grandmother who was in New York. Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_01:

But I appreciate those.

SPEAKER_02:

There are many people who know. But I appreciate that. I was incapable to say the name of this grandmother because it's our grandmother, pardon. My grandparents are in Algeria. Okay. And we are in Maroc. And my mother and his mother are known also in Maroc. So there are many movements in the family at the people, their territories, which I mean the fact that I'm a great amount of watchers.

SPEAKER_01:

I posted the question in the social media. I know you watch a little. And there's an attack also for Liverpool. I loved a lot of boats, but it's a voyage.

SPEAKER_02:

Do you want to talk about a little bit? Well, very comment, but I think one of the great moments in my life was my voice in Angleterre with my mother and my boss who was to London. And I had always got this image. I told we were in an avion that the company was the British Caledonian. I think that it exists now, but for what these moments were marked, I went also with my wife who is at 10 years ago, who was on Flight Radar and all the possible. So I think he had also the truth. I told you that at London, in Angleterre, I've had in the blue to the village, to the south of the village. And I was not reading at the moment, but it was evident that it was my early. And the five with my mother, etc. in Maroc, on Spain, etc. After I continue too. A little bit in the world. What's the liberty? There was a little anecdote that I wanted to say. I went my bug, my motor for the business. And after I started the Jura, I went on the Jura, and I was at the sales, because I was at Verrier, I had already had this sensation and this feeling, this I was a little bit. I wanted that these two were the prisoners. And when I went, I went to this prison. And I hear what the world could offer. And in fact I wanted to say that it was asked to read other cultures, to appear different languages, and to see how the people reached, if it was a character, a idea, a religion, a little bit of things. And I've known that that was passionate that to learn in a life, for example. I had much difficulty to learn in a life to watch and to see the shows. So I began by a big voice in Europe, and after the aiguille, after working a moment in Anglican and after working in Italy, it was funny. It was clear and nice that my ability TPG was an aboardment of Easy Jet, British Airways, Swiss, American Alliance, etc. And I really profited to work with the world. So it was really much of not a passion, but I don't know vital. I had to build these moments for me and be in the way that I think and that means.

SPEAKER_01:

And you said that you have been in Anglican and the Sunday.

SPEAKER_02:

I would say that in my business I was really what I would have. I was not really scholar. I was what I did. I was always a bit more than more. I had any problems of concentration because I was always enjoying or my teeth. So I could go ahead. And my mother was diagnosed a little bit on the journalism sportive at the moment, because I admitted the sport, it was a little bit of a lot, all these things. I had effectively in 1985, I think it was my eyes where I went an equipment of Liverpool for my anniversary. My passion for the club during 40 years. I remember it was the equipment of Kevin Kigan at the event. And I said I was very delayed because it was this equipment. Alright, I had to revocate it, and I had recuperated. But it was a little bit the moment difficult with Liverpool where there was the Hazel. And so there was no internet. I don't know, there were sports. It was not so evident. And it's like the moment it was very good for me because I was in a class with my class. And there was Liverpool Juventus who went. And I think that on my mother at the club of the year on my tour, and we had to have the results. And when I said what I was doing, it had said that it was a Juventus, but the 29 people. And it was marked. And I was watching Liverpool, my cousin who I was a little. And an among Andy, who is Anglican Italian, and I mean Liverpool, and Phil, I've got the club. And it was also a bit of the idea, because I was a fan of the food English, to live in Angel. It was complicated because I had 17 years with my companies. I was a vendor sport, so I had a salary interest, so I could stay with the company and it was difficult. But I did a little bit violent, I wanted to say that it was what I wanted to do in the continuity. And my mother had made a couple of pieds off, and I said, you're going to live in Anglican. And it was probably the decision of my life that was significant. It was started in a zone of comfort complete. I was in a family that was the one. I went to a family that was the one, I saw the language that was the one. And this was difficult, complicated. I did my mother, I'll take each year, and so each year. And I began to go to Arsenal, Crystal Palace at Ibury, the ancient stand. I went through the shows. I went to Arsenal Cambridge, I went to Aston Villa who went at Crystal Palace, Liverpool, Chelsea, etc. I went to Angleterre Cameroon at Wembley, it was more than 19 degrees, the Cameroon were congregated on the terrain. And all these big details that were example I did 20 minutes after the first match for my microphone, I don't rent a high. And I was at the moment, I was there, and I capitalism a bit on that, and that's what I've been after my life where I put an avion for nymph what reason and watch none match of food. I should go to match in Angleterre, but I should have 20, 25 stats into the two division, the three, the three.

SPEAKER_01:

And then just two minutes on Liverpool, because the club is interesting for me because I watch it's my club.

SPEAKER_02:

It's entre guillemets my club because I think that it's the club of the people, it's a club of family. It's a way philosophical that I'm very Liverpool. It's a chant you never woke alone that can be too much because I had tattooing on the Los Angeles in earlier. Are the people who are, etc. It's really marching. Because in many moments of my life, I'm not less. So in fact, I should probably identify with this club who has a blue, he should be for the amount of club. And when we win, we got the benefits of content just to have a club that we are. And that's a philosophy that I play. So in fact, he's basculated with a philosophy of view, not a simple football. And we decided to get it, and to battery the eternal rivals that are Everton and Manchester United. And if there are larmes that are a match that we don't pay, it's an emotion also. We have we decided to get over that. Because we said that a year we got this match, and probably the journey will be. And to see showers like Graziani, Conti, Rome, who were untouchable, to the Rome, we were living and the group. In 1995, it was enormous. And there was. But he procured emotions that I've really had. But with Liverpool we don't pass joy or color or large. We perhaps have 3-0, we should get the meeting, there's something that happens. In five minutes, we're at 3-3. 2005, 2005, right. Stefan Castellan had said I have a billet for you. And I should debug to put an avion ball in Istanbul because I don't, with a pretext, a match. Where I did. It was a part of the story of Liverpool that I could have in a certain way. And to see my idol, Steven Jarhard, get a three-a-ball, and public. And not to bring a joy to have marked, but to want with his mind like he wants, we push, we can go, because we don't know. We're in Liverpool, and we have the arms because we have to do it. That's what I mean, but this club is a lot in my life, very clearly.

SPEAKER_01:

But I told you that you never walk alone, and this community, and as I said, philosophy, it's a sport, but it's a part of integrated sport. You made a life of the team, not of the village, but that philosophy and this with other people. You know, people who are living or two, two anecdotes.

SPEAKER_02:

These are not for sure, because I am here and I am, like enough supporters of Liverpool, a support entrance. You can say one at Liverpool, the club the most supportive is not Liverpool, it's Everton. Everton has lots of support than Liverpool in the village. In the world, Liverpool is a fine. So in fact, when you are in Roundfield, we have Norwegian, we have a lot of Scandinavers who are Liverpool, there are many Asiatics also who have the trip from China, Hong Kong, Japan, what are people, and work. So in fact, it's really a great family, malling, mixed, which I love, who are more. If now I move to work with the scousers, the people of Liverpool are difficult, because in talking about English, the Scous is really a language, they rules the hair, they are in a manner difficult to complain. So we have to identify the Liverpool because there's a difference that is not at this point. But at the other way, we are two fans of Liverpool, so we were a little bit family. I don't know this message. But the anecdote that I wanted to tell you is that a five day I was at two. One with my exam, we were at Seattle, and I went on short, t-shirt, we went to a concert at Coldplay. And the chapter there was a guy who started, who got my family, who regarded, and he went from the pouch, and I said Frangin, Hello Bro. And I did not, and I said why. And for now, I'm at Seattle. And in Thailand or Vietnam, I don't know. I balade also this year I had a maillot of flamingo, because the mother of my wife is fan of flamingo, and we had Brazilian, I don't know. And there's a guy in Liverpool who has a guy who has a maillot of Liverpool, and we go, we discutt, we put a photos. Well, it's like that. So in fact, because it's at Seattle, Vietnam, at Liverpool, at Geneva, or at Morge or Glon, we have always that we have two philosophy where we have this club. I think that's my idea about the suggestion.

SPEAKER_01:

This case relations human relationship, we aim to this question that I had posted and posted to the invitation. Is that you're telling me of our first one, David?

SPEAKER_02:

Alright, I'm not completely, but the first idea I have is that I think that Didier, our among community, of a people who had been in poker, who was American. And I think there was a baseball also, or co-baseball. Co-baseball. And the fact that we had a club with Didier and Jose, it would mean that they're going to do it. We have, if my it seems that it's the first time where I'm. I think it's a DJ just at Lancy. Or it's possible.

SPEAKER_01:

It's possible. I have a doubt also. Because we have this club at Lancy.

SPEAKER_02:

We had the Kill Kill. We had a club where we had two people, but it was a very club really simple for the pocket. It's not the back. But it was very simple. We've been with Jose and Didier. And we had a quinze, and it was always a bad day. And I said that they were doing it. That's true. And I told you that it was good.

SPEAKER_01:

You had suffering. It was long, it's been a long time that I did not make sure they were recently at the time, for me. But I think that it's in effect. Because Didier Rider is an when I joined baseball. He had transferred the work of baseball. And in Swiss there, there are many clubs. And when I was there, many expats at Geneva, there are Americans and Anglophones. There was a league that were organized for the people. But after 14-15 years, there were many options. I recovered that there were two clubs of baseball at Geneva: the Geneva Dragons and the Geneva Hounds. And I connected the Geneva Dragons and I went to Didier. So I had 17 years at the event. Okay. But he had his 50 years the day, but he had his 50 years. When we talk about sports, community in our equipe of baseball, we had really an experience of Dragons where we were really very fresh. It was very good. Didier the tribune of the dragons. And after this phase of baseball was terminated, with Didier we were involved at Servette FC because he traveled as the press and he was like that. Because he traveled with Servette at a moment where the club was very in difficulty financially, had been retrograde in the 200 division, not the 4th division Swiss. And Didier had two. It was really the club. It was very passionate. Didier passionate. He took the but it was the club of baseball. ServetteFC was for me the great boss of the club and passionate. And I was dancing in this activity of videos. Thank you for Didier who. And I had to jump in poker in fact. One year from me, I had the Texas Holdem who was in 2005 was very popular with Chris Moneymaker, an amateur who had gotten, who had legendary. I went to poker. I went to poker. And after he was in a passion for the show.

SPEAKER_02:

He has me. Ah, it's who me. We are party along. We played one, two, two, two, three, because we were two in this process.

SPEAKER_01:

And it's like I have a doubt. Because I say that the club of Poker, I think I've been two days, but I don't know if it's our first one, but I said that this party later it was a tournous, we had two. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

So it was the maximum. And I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01:

We were on heads up. We were the two on heads up. And after my changed and we had discutted, and I had a lot of pleasure to discut. And it's one of the things that I'm a little with the poker, so just we move on to a tablet that will be like six to eight people, maybe one, but in general on tournoi. We don't say at the way of what we are. We don't know. But in a tournous, it's a little lottery. And with you, with Didier, there's always a good ambient.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, it's it means I think it's a pleasure, not if you do more. But I understand these moments, those moments a little bit difficult. But I rebound because it's a sacred episode of Pokemon. It's not an episode of cart or to get the masses or to count the code implicit. It's not that. It's make a mirror and regard. Why you nerves on this idea? Why you know? Why you know that he has this attitude? Why does humility? It's a sacred call of me. And I wanted to say that, but at the long I tried very interesting, I don't know what you mean on the moment, but I was humiliated at macao with a room, I thought. And in fact, it had touched my eyes. And I just said I was, or almost calm, calm to talk, a little bit on me and reflect. And the big story is to remain, reflect another one, and I tried with the time that the call of poker is incredibly enriching to approach it. I don't know what you think about it.

SPEAKER_01:

I tried that very interesting, this aspect. And I think there were a certain, not if there was a provocation a little bit, there was a certain ethics. And so we have a little bit more mathematical of the show and also the people who are in which the probabilities, the but there was also this attitude of attack, you're a men who have an iPad, who are an iPad, who does their chips, and there is a way where there's a wig, there are that aspect. But not just in what you said, is when we move into certain situations where we have a short, there's a reflection because you have the time a bit of reflection, to analyze, and to say okay, he's a three hour that we go on at the table in general, he works in that. Then he regards or he touches my personality or there are enough things that pass. Paradoxically, a few we have, we are at the cards pour fold. And on one there's an aspect, but what you explain is that there's this aspect of we are face to us and face to the provocation.

SPEAKER_02:

Alright, I would say that it's two terms in fact. The first one is the term poker. Where effectively the attitude of the show. Effectively, the code implicit, the machine, or the lecture of the person, or the manner that you can understand what you have or what, etc. You know, this show of you say you say you say, etc. But I thought that we could also sort of have an equality in the poker. Why? Because it's a discipline also to have if you have a little. And those who do poker like you, Didier, Joseph, two pots know pertinently that there's a little bit more in profound. After there's a talent also with the people, there's an acting class also to know if you can pass a message or not, etc. And I told that the poker, after I went with Didier in 2009, I think, I knew really that the poker will be also to do their response in the world of the life. So I was the fault of the other. But no, it's not the fault of the one. And I think that in the world it's a lot of people. I appreciate enough to the fact that we say we have to work with the other we possess, and we don't know what we are with us to do the more version of us, because it's not in the trail or a year. I think that the poker will ask with the time, because I don't know if we can put it in two or three years, to advance. I think there's a more questions that you can pose on the life and ask for a philosophy of life and that corresponds, in fact, by the way. So in fact, I think that for me, I think that's an equal like when you have football or you can do baseball, it's a thing that if you have the other, you can get. These people don't have a lot if there's no equipping at the end. Effectively, it's virtuous, we are. When we talk about basketball, I adored the puppets. When I was in Italy, we had the Phoenix Suns with the Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan, Charles Barclay, etc. They're monster. But they have a thing. There's always the Lieutenant Scotty Pippen who is at the end for Jordan, Beggie Armstrong who is always, a Bill Cartwright who is there, and he could always make a room. And the people, for example, who are a little bit more in the people who are humble but that means it has an energy that makes that you have a result. And I remarked that the poker is a unique, but in the sense where he shows each, it's all called all the people in the world. But I'm ready in the club respectively where we are to organizate their poker on equipping. Because we would discount and with the time, it was to me, for example, personally for my channel, to say okay, the solid, the equipped, the way we travel, for example, we are obliged to be solid between us play, it is, it means to advance. So I think that the poker has aided effectively to compromise the shit. It's what I'm passionate about to see the attitude of the people. A public who is dilating, a mechanism is nervous. You regard to you at the end because the guy is his card, but he is too pressed to put his chance to do it. So we said, there's so much that's interesting, stay prudent. These things, I think it's making a connaissance, maybe also for a short view that are other than the poker or the joke.

SPEAKER_01:

The fact that discuter design, to referee the sequence after the coup, or to discuter with me, or maybe you know, you pose a question. I don't know if you were at Merin. I wanted to sit because I've had a good experience. For example, a lot of young people who are, and they're the things are important. It's for that my budget.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

But there are that seriously and discutent. This aspect I admire that you have a student, the possibilities of exchange. For example, when I say a big experience, I started just at a table where there was a particular who was on his telephone enjoying to do it at a multi-table and he called a little attack. And so I was a man with me. And I did a move, a party that was, was academically, certainly not the move to, but it was 20 years that I do, the mean, probably clearly more than me. But in this situation, I had a shape that was also a bit a short. And it's also where the pocket is interesting. It will work a long time, and it's also a strategic to say if you have enough to stay here long or not. And then when I'm all in and I gotta go each I'm in a position where I can control what happens at the table, and I'm in a position of force, if you do my or more with the attention, it's more complicated. And in fact, it has to provocate a little bit on me saying there's a moment in the way the move is correct. And after all this échange that during six minutes, the time he decided to call it or not, I was done. But it was for me it was pretty harsh a name of the provocation. And if it's a joke, I did not entice. On the license, I got a man, but it was particularly venero. But it was the insult and I am here, I paid, I think, a big number of charges for that. And I had a move that was not the way that the people have had, but I did. And for me, it was a sentiment to say okay, maybe there's the fierce personality or the fact that paying that affects that person, but I made my attitude at all the rest of the time. And also I don't know the attitude of the other. And that's a thing that I did two or three times. In a situation where you have a person who comports a lot in the moments, in the attitudes, and that all the other people do something, I'm a little bit problems with that because I think there's a way human that is important. And what I'm saying with you, Didier, is that even if we are in a situation a bit intense of a chance, there's a joke, there is always that aspect social, that aspect of respect. And if we are done, we don't have an insult.

SPEAKER_02:

That's clear. The difference, I think, is that we have also a phenomenon that is simple, is there the same way. When you're at DC Pocket or Lausanne, or what you pay, and you do it. And the people you have there, entre guillemets. There's a political that does it. There's a respect that does it, but it's a pion. You can see your thing. So in fact, I think there are more of those people. There are also one or two who are super simple and discutent, etc. And others who are poker poker poker, and other who are touched on their ego because you have paid with a eight-three ooff, and the mechanic is a row, and eight, three, three that turns, I'm gonna say that it's not in the logic of the things, but normally with the royal 92% to go with a 8-3. The fact that you're doing entre guillemets, not like it's marked in the lives, I would say, but you gotta make him a double check, you touch your ego, it's once of that he has posted just to go to a 8-3 and the problem, that's my vision, is that I think that when you're a big player, we do have attention to other things. It doesn't accept the fact that to pay with a 8-3 with the roi, and passing other things, and it's also where a great further, and say, I've done 170% of my stack or 70% or 40%, maybe 90%, but if it is short, you have a lot of fun. You go two or three, and you want to say the poker there are enough variants in the show, in the old game, just that you can. There are short stack that defenses and tournous. And there are people who have plenty of jetons that they don't have to get the mass but they put it. So in fact, if he has been frustrated at the moment with a 8-3, is that my idea he had a risk that he had, but if he had, but he had put in connaissance of cause, because he had the row or the ass, I don't know what it is, but if you're a tirage or machine, that's part of the show. There's no footballer who can get away from the phone.

SPEAKER_01:

It was just a tirage. I'm gonna find all the time. But that's what I did after, because at the moment I didn't say I was. After I got the money. No, but the insult, for me, the insult it was I'm the fact that I say there's a mind in the whole bet is correct. And it was a bit a repetition of this genre of phrase that really posted problems. I had enough to say we have a mind, there's a mind in which we are actually. At the end, what I did you do three years ago, you have a tattoo of poker, it's your truth, you do poker a million times like me. The fact that you do that you consider inimaginable, at the long time, a job like me, you can get the time with me. So I can say that it's a cool, and you don't have a comment to that, but then it's seven minutes that I'm trying to eat, in order to insulture.

SPEAKER_02:

It's a comport.

SPEAKER_01:

And it's like I do the other time we have to do it, and now we are not in the social. Oh, it does not academically, but it's totally social. But I'll just look at what you said on your comportment on the things.

SPEAKER_02:

I think when you say not that you can, but the things are not. There are a few ways where you have a great woman, there's the roi, or he lives at a colon with a card. When you see there are a moments like that, they have all these moments where there's no chance, where it turns out, etc. In the life, it's like that. You live in the morning, you went to a phone, and two weeks it is, and you see, and after eight days there's nothing. And I had the impression that the poker was anything of the life. In the way he could be a figure at that. What I think? And I did, really, very, very in the world. And it's that also that I played, because in my life I played in poker in Angleterre, in Ireland, in Malta, in Macao, in the Italy, and I wanted all the differences. These differences that pleased and that made me approach what human with a joke, a sport, with a voyage, with the difficulties, etc. But in fact, I wonder that the poker was in fact not anything of cards, of 50 cards that we played with a flop in turn. I was wondering that there was more than that. The early tour that I've had in Italy in a year, two people were trying to tell Biden and Trump. And now we are on a discussion of the European, etc. And my pot italience who has a table, who is a cab, and there are nice Americans who are on it. So for a sujet that are at the base, because we have commenced a party of poker. And that's why I wanted that it will generate like the football. The football, you are in the two, in the people who are poor, a boot, and we have food, and we have a gold, and we are, and it makes a joy. Although you gotta get a million and millions of dollars to make the same thing, make a ballon off of a boat. And the poker, in fact, at the end, wait, it's clear that the first tour that I had, I had 100. I was like, I did 100 to 60. Wow, I was like, it's incredible, and I wanted to say that it was also the fruit of my life. Because in fact, the poker says more than me. You commence a party, tu has the main number of jetons that another, but it has to pass by a moments difficult of reflection, to count on the mathematics, that and that, and you wanna hunt that. You finish at 4 hours the matter, you have 10 or 60, or effectively, you have a canton, but you say you construct a victor. It's a victory in the morning, but in fact it will be a chance that we can make also in place in the world.

SPEAKER_01:

About difficulty. Okay, it's right. And it's also to say you can be super disciplined, focus, and construct. And if one minute or even a fraction of a second, you can do it by a big decision, a big attitude, a big reaction.

SPEAKER_02:

And that's a thing also in the trade, we can make a switch, where you don't permite to example my example an example with my convoyer of prison, at the office cantonal of the detention. If I have the error to do so much a year in my life private, I pay my perfect, I pay my life, I don't care, I don't know. If now I cut the eyes, or I cut the money, there's a way eventually to make something that a menu will not be. Football, baseball, basket, etc. You have an environment to you a short. And if you have a big choice, we have other response, or one that will be. But in general, I think in the time, if the comportement is adequate in the part of agents, the prisoners comport comports also. And I think the order passes, because evidently there's a authority that is, it will be so complicated or also not accepted. So it's also to, like, to put the bad decisions to that things pass, and that's what is to make a person at the point A to point B to fashion.

SPEAKER_01:

The time passes. There are many things that I've talked about with you, but I'll just tell you. I think it was in 2018.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

And you can talk about a bit, because when I was at the time, you were in point. Obesity morbid.

SPEAKER_02:

I attained at 178 kg. For 1,89 mm. And it was very complicated. Probably I was in a form of denny also, but it was a year my medicine, my generalist must regard too badly, I think three days the data. And I said, three years of time. And then I think he made a suit in a manner as dingue. And I did, but 178 kg, we're going to essouffle the plus and plus, the apnea of the sommeil, the tension that is hate, the food that is surcharged, the possibility of AVC and pass, diabetes, pre-diabet, etc. And effectively, I think I was in a certain dynamic, I had a certain tristess on me on a sujet, I would say, familia, which I've really accepted. Incorrectly, I think the acceptance was one of the things that I did apply and integrated. And he made that it was good to envisage eventually an operation that's happened the bypass, chirurgic bariatrique. And I had confiance totally in my medicine, and I was close with this decision. Nivea I made up, I performed 74 kilos. It's my own impression. It's impressive in one day and a month, I think. I was at 48 kilos in nine months. It was very good. And it's a baby, it's not a solution. It's a backyard, it's attention, it's to understand what you say and what you mean. And it's a great one, because the people physically, but for the same person, the same teeth, the same eyes, but you have changes physically, the things changes, and it's a good thing, and it's not hesitant to understand what you're doing.

SPEAKER_01:

And psychologically after or how do you find it for super form?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know if I'm not in all-in the first one. Because in all-in the first one, I can double my tape or I can perhaps. And if you have tranquil, I have a construction, like I've decided to do after the operation on attachment on the service of a psychologist, via a psychiatrist who chapot, to say to me where you have sports. It's not just the power and village, it exists. It's not linked to the emotional. Okay, that's part of me, but okay, we are. But the chance, the things are a double title. It does physically, and your life is a little bit more loose. So you can facilitate and evolution like that. So in fact, what is a difficult thing was simply a change after. And this decided to employ it, I should accapate this, this idea, this philosophy of life that it's not a problem. And if it's a problem, we got a problem and we got the manner. And it was eight months that I was operated. And I'm excited, it was good. And the fact that when my wife is cool, I can go down it's for me the response. It's also good for my life, for my organisms, and I've got 20 years, so the souffle, the apnea, respiratory per hour. I did not do it, I'm dormant. It's possible. It was a fun day, really. So when we have this limit that is passed, we don't have the way, we go, and we put the force, and now we need to work on normal. After there's another thing that's a good one is that I'm celiac, so I have the way to do gluten. So, pizza, it's a little bit complicated. But the difficulty, it's the man. Attention, I talk about these difficult things. There are difficulty that are a little bit, and we're not the solution. But in the way, I've used them with an entourage incredible that made these caps. And when we have Liverpool and say that you know it is in march, but it's one of the way we can arrive at a result. I was after an hour at the time, after all that, and I had one or two person who made me say Bonjour monsieur. It's the shock. But it was really a change of ding. You passed the 178 to 103. It's a trick of full. It's a tricky full, but that's what I say to people: put a bouteille at the micro or the cup, you say, the packet of six. And that means to march and also not have fear of the mind exterior. Because many man. We have a quinza to operate, child will be at their manner. And you say that it's a little bit difficult. You don't have the time and pass this cap.

SPEAKER_01:

We have an air, we're in couple. It's more complicated because he is in Espace, but in the way the importance of the paternity of your fancy, we understand, we said just in the podcast. For me, it ankle my life. But the question I posted because I've got an air, I'm a kid, and it's all for me, and I think you can touch this.

SPEAKER_02:

Completely. I think, but I think that I could be almost that on certain things, I'm saying simply that when we are people, in the way for my part, in my experience, it's a responsibility, it's an exemplar exemplar. Exemplarity. There are plenty of things that are and that you continue all the time to progress, be the most version of you, into him, enough, collector, etc. And that he was on there, the time, it was for me genius, magnificent, and complicated, in fact. Because the relation with my mom was very good at the negative. I didn't have how to go to that. I'll go into the details, but it was a complicated where I was completely prisoner, I didn't know what to do, it was a solution. And the solution was to work very quickly. Effectively, when he was known the 2 September 2020, on COVID, once of that, the moments of COVID had been facilitated. It was very, very, very complicated. I think one, is that the year he was, I had the brand of his mother, because there were complications. And when I was on the brand, I had it in the eyes that I abandoned, I was just there. And after my life, these two phrases are there. So in fact, all the rest after. But if you can ask a truth, is that I also believe that we're not a people, we are also homes. We don't know, because if you think that the people will be, and that it will make things. So in fact, I say also a colleague, anything I'm solid, but if people, you'll say no, you can't say you have anything, but there's a priority. The priority is, it's evident, my life is there, my presence is, I will, all the two weeks in. I'm the bad. I don't culpability. We'll see the and it's like that I think we can see the most. And my friends, she's on the bad way. But I think we will never walk alone.

SPEAKER_01:

So that's true, it works. That's true. I would turn just by saying that we're not super. We can do poker.

SPEAKER_02:

It's a poker, but Didier is the reference of our connaissance, right? Exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

But I've proved that you're exemplar, has an important and positive. You engage very positive. And in this conversation, it was super pleasant to know a little bit about you.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm sorry, it touched enormous, also, because I did also Didier who is our community, is a friend for me. So at the moment that it touches in your environment, I'm in confiance, I am. And I also had the defeat on the pleasure to pass this moment. It's a super. And I say that I'm a paper. And we have a lot of points in common. I admire your life also. We work a little bit, so it was the bonus to pass this moment with you.

SPEAKER_01:

Genius.